Estimation:DAGGER SA Second war ????

[Alessandro]

Hello All,
First: Iam sorry if i dont post on good place, because i dont talk German.... Sorry.
I have see on Merchand web site a good dagger at 37€.
I am french and i am interested for informations about this knife:
Minty WW2 SA Dagger Anton Wingen Jr Solingen

And the seller say that about it:
This is a nice example of a rare WW2 SA Dagger. Signed on the Blade Anton Wingen Jr Solingen its one of the rarer SA type daggers. 100% genuine.

THAT IS A COPY (What do you think)???

Thank you all for your reponses and sorry again.
Ciao

 

[surfer]

Hello!
Nearly shure that's a fake, nobody would sell an original SA Dagger for 37€, they're much more expensive!!
You can find some experts on
http://www.militaria-fundforum.de/
Post your question in here
http://www.militaria-fundforum.de/board.php?boardid=81

regards
surfer

 

[luftauge]

Bonjour Alessandro,

I'm not definitely sure, but the price ist a little bit too low for an "original" Dagger in minty condition, very suspect
The etching "A.f.D" along the middle of the blade seems to be correct, although the manufacturers sign normally didn't appear there, there should be a ciphered sign beginning with "RZM" + 7/xx at the ricasso in a round logo.
Anton Wingen jr. had the cipher RZM 7/51, there may have been some more ciphers for this factory.

The shown dagger is not in a minty condition !
It looks more like one dagger gathered of three or four available pieces, it doesn't look like a real complete original, but it may be made of original parts, the manufacturers sign is also original, but was not used that time at that type.
Real authentic originals will take from ~1000 - 1500€ - but only in mint condition and totally complete, no pitting, sheath, chain and one of the correct cipher logos !
The chain itself is available at ~250€ !!!

You will find more information at the www.militaria-fundforum.de

edit:
surfer war schneller

Regards Andreas

 

[BlackBlade]

For 37€ you can buy nicer knives...! Sorry, but I can't find anything on this dagger that I would call "good", whether it is a fake or a original one...

Kind Regards

BlackBlade

 

[Alessandro]

Bonjour Aussi Deutch friends,

Real authentic originals will take from ~1000 - 1500€

I have see in other web site the same dagger at 2800€
Your details are good informations for me.
Big thanks to you and Surfer.
@+++

 

[Alessandro]

IS a beautifull copy do you think?
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[surfer]

Well, it's a copy, beautiful in my opinion is something diferent, and not war related
In general I can't find any beautiful in Nazi design. It's a terrible mixture from roman and viking design elements and that kind of pommel could be usefull in a swoard, but I think in a dagger it's not in the right place.
Call it interesting in a historical aspect but beautifull..........don't know..