J&R Dodge Juste Judicato - double shear steel carving knife

[kwakster]

A recent thrift shop find, and bought for a fart and three marbles (dutch expression, meaning for next to nothing)
From research i learned that J&R Dodge Sheffield didn't manufacture anything themselves, but instead bought high quality cutlery, razors and tools from well established Sheffield makers and resold these under their Juste Judicato (Choose Right) brand, for instance in two stores they owned in Amsterdam.
That is most likely how this carving knife ended up in the Netherlands.
Back in the day in this country J&R Dodge were known for the quality of the double-shear steel carving knives they offered for sale.












Specifications & measurements:

Overall length: 13.07 inch (33,2 cm)
Blade length: 8.07 inch (20,5 cm)
Blade thickness: 2,29 mm at the start of the swedge tapering to 0,44 mm at 1,0 cm before the point
Thickness behind the edge: 0.25 mm at the start of the swedge tapering to 0,16 mm at 1,0 cm before the point
Steel type: double shear steel
Handle material: black horn
Weight: 128,4 grams
The knife is handle heavy

 

[gast]

Carving knife?

 

[Abu]

Congrats, that’s a real good find, indeed. The size seems to me is well made for „carving“ a whole cattle into beef, I guess. When carving I think of wood, little confused.

Abu

 

[kwakster]

Yes, for cutting meat in the kitchen or at the table.
The sought after special quality in both shear steel and it's more refined version double shear steel is the toothy edge these old school Sheffield steels will take, and which will work most excellent on all kinds of meat.
Butchers in the old days highly prized these knives, and specimens in good condition like this one are very difficult to find.

More info about the company: Joseph & Robert Dodge Ltd (https://www.hawleysheffieldknives.com/n-fulldetails.php?val=d&kel=1724)

 

[gast]

Sorry. You are right. Carving Knives: for cutting roasts, meat and ham - Friedr. Dick: DICK (https://www.dick.de/messer/en/cutting/chefs-knives/carving-knives)
I was so focused at carving wood that I missed the full meaning of a carving knive.

This is a beautiful knife. Thanks for sharing.

 

[kwakster]

The sequence in manufacturing seems to have been like this, where each metal type was made from the previous one: wrought iron > blister steel > shear steel > double shear steel > triple shear steel.
Carbon was added to wrought iron to produce blister steel, which in turn was made into shear steel.
Shear steel was already quite hard, and could be broken (or sheared) into pieces, which were then restacked, rewelded, and reforged into double shear steel, a more refined version.
Double shear steel itself could also be broken up, restacked, rewelded, and reforged into triple shear steel.

While none of the above were as refined as crucible cast steel, both shear steel and it's more refined versions double shear steel and triple shear steel were sought after for specific types of cutlery because of the toothy edges these steels would take, and which among others would work most excellent on all kinds of meat.
Where shear steel seems to have been known for it's very toothy edges, double shear steel edges were a bit finer toothy, while triple shear steel would have had the finest toothy edge.

 

[kwakster]

Engraving depicting the shearing of blistered steel to produce a higher quality steel - Sheffield.
The shearers sat in swinging seats so that they could manoeuvre the bars being beaten under the hammers.
Dated 19th century

 

[Hamurra-e]

And some new blistered steel.

 

[kwakster]

These 2 pictures taken in 1869 show the J&R Dodge display, which was made especially for an international exhibition in the Dutch Paleis voor Volksvlijt exhibition hall in Amsterdam in the Netherlands.




Background on the building: Paleis voor Volksvlijt - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleis_voor_Volksvlijt)

 

[kwakster]

The knife really is a delight to work with and it gets used at least several times a week for cutting various types of meat, as well as softer breads and large apple pies.
It's kept sticky sharp freehand on a DMT red.

Part of the ingredients for an old school beef stew:





Probably the best apple crumble pie we ever had.
(made by a Chef as payment for sharpening two knives for him)

 

[ingoweimar]

Also so sah mein Steak nach dem Anbraten noch nie aus.

 

[boogerbrain]

That's a hell of a carving knife ... ! Very nice indeed.

@ingoweimar: Du hast's vermutlich nicht so gut paniert wie kwakster ...

 

[kwakster]

The brothers J&R Dodge owned two stores in the Netherlands in Amsterdam from 1820 up to 1884, where they sold high quality made in Sheffield knives as well as chisels and other cutting tools.
One store was situated in the Kalverstraat while the other used to be in the Leidschestraat, and both streets are filled with various shops to this very day.